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Posted Jun 08, 2007 05:09 AM by Ahzz

40 comments

Yes it is quite true, it is possible for blind people to play starcraft too. it just requires some techniques and practise to do it properly.

You can see a video of a blind gamer playing maybe the most famous progamer of starcraft universe, SlayerS_'Boxer'! Boxer was blindfolded to make it more "equal".

The blind guy was simply dominating boxer, but then boxer took his blindfold away... Overall I must say that the blind guy played amazingly well. Who won? watch and see!

The video

Source:
SWBK forum thread


Magmaniac
1
Wow.

I thought boxer was going to lose until like 20 minutes in.

  Jun 08, 2007
06:17 AM EST

ZerglingwithAK47
2
boxers such a cheater! lol

i wonder if they can understand what the lyrics are saying in that song at the end of the video.

  Jun 08, 2007
06:49 AM EST

HDogXero
3
So, why didn't they turn Boxer's monitor off or away from him?

  Jun 08, 2007
07:03 AM EST

Ahzz (Section Moderator)
4
because they might want first person video out of. kind of see it in boxers perspective. not possible if monitor is off.

  Jun 08, 2007
08:33 AM EST

ITSTORRASQUE4U
5
What a cheater

And props to the blind guy. Playing SC with only sounds must be a great challenge.

BEWARE MARINES, TUSKS AHEAD

  Jun 08, 2007
09:26 AM EST

GMmarine
6
Cheater cheater punkin eater...

  Jun 08, 2007
09:56 AM EST

Neratul
7
blind guy: am i wining? other guy: uhh...*sees buildings being destroyed*...no.
how many people ends up having their speakers not working? and i mean even the speakers are on and still doesn't work? why I brought this up because my speakers aren't working, how can i play starcraft or starcraft2 with dead speakers???

i take back what i said system restoration worked...

  Jun 08, 2007
10:00 AM EST

RineLingZlot
8
thats like, impossible!, for a blind guy to play an 'video game'
i mean, someones gotta sit there and tell him that stim packs sound like
"sst, aw yeah thats good stuff"

  Jun 08, 2007
11:02 AM EST

AzVortez
9
Pfft, I bet none of the gosu players out there could beat the blind guy with a blindfold on, lol.

And isnt this video old or sumthin? I know i've seen it somewhere a long time ago...

  Jun 08, 2007
11:33 AM EST

thedutchjelle (Section Moderator)
10
I just lost my respect for Boxer.
If he can't stand a loss, fuck him. Removing his blindfold is cheating indeed.

Hopeless encounters succesfully won
Thedutchjelle

  Jun 08, 2007
06:07 PM EST

Ahzz (Section Moderator)
11
dutch, can you see how much trouble boxer had even to add his scvs mining? he wasn't used to that stuff lol. if he hadn't done it it would have been quite pathetic loss for the opponents fast ling rush. and he still almost lost.

  Jun 08, 2007
06:24 PM EST

SgtHK
12
Yeah. Even without the blindfold, Boxer was like a sittiing duck until he established a good army almost so very late in the game.

  Jun 08, 2007
07:23 PM EST

Hyperion
13
LOL Thats amazing XD

  Jun 08, 2007
08:53 PM EST

Ahzz (Section Moderator)
14
Ah I just heard that it was in the rules that boxer gotta be blindfolded for 3 minutes. he can then remove it.

  Jun 08, 2007
10:19 PM EST

SgtHK
15
Ah, so he isn't a cheater after all

  Jun 08, 2007
10:40 PM EST

vIsitor
16
The blind guy's skill was certainly impressive.

  Jun 09, 2007
09:01 AM EST

ValValiant4
17
I thought it was something else when the blind guy knew
where all the expansions were at when he was scouting!!

So staged...

  Jun 09, 2007
09:20 AM EST

andman
18
The blind guy just memorized the map.

  Jun 09, 2007
09:49 AM EST

SgtHK
19
He probably played the map when he still wasn't blind

  Jun 09, 2007
09:51 AM EST

phalos
20
Hello.
Is this serious, or a joke?
I myself am legally blind. I've tried to make SC accessible, but to no avail.
Any technical details?
-I used JFW, with a specialized script.
-I got some text, but that was it.


  Jun 09, 2007
10:08 AM EST

Ahzz (Section Moderator)
21
"I thought it was something else when the blind guy knew
where all the expansions were at when he was scouting!!

So staged..."

please? show respect to the blind guys sheer skill. it is 100% real... it is korea, anything related to starcraft can happen.

"The blind guy just memorized the map"

you make it sound so simple. haha. ofcourse he knows the map, I know all common maps too. I mean, just try to beat a normal computer while blindfolded? too hard to even make your workers mine? thought so. it really is like that. you wont have easy time even mining. that alone took boxer, who knew the map too, what? 2 minutes?

"Is this serious, or a joke?"

it is serious. that man used advanced techniques, such as memorizing the map with shift + f2, f3 etc. This way he'll find the correct position easily again. he also used scrolling to the corner to find the correct places.
he also had his mouse at the middle of the screen, and moves with arrows. this way he will always be where he wants to.

It's true that it isn't a easy task and takes practise, but it really is true.


  Jun 09, 2007
10:22 AM EST

smasher25
22
What's all the stuff about logging in?

  Jun 09, 2007
04:00 PM EST

ValValiant4
23
"He probably played the map when he still wasn't blind"

Probly...

I tried to play with my eyes closed and it's difficult!!
I had to select my workers, hot key them, left click on a mineral
(tried to), and you really have to guess and listen...
Cause everything you select makes a noise.

  Jun 09, 2007
06:08 PM EST

Tolis
24
That guy is really good

  Jun 09, 2007
07:11 PM EST

gallantry609
25
Boxer = Dog Shit
Reason: No respect for blind dudes.

Blind Dude = Hell of a player!!!!!!
Reason: Having Boxer Experience Lings crapping on his Base.

Total:

Boxer = Infinity% Dog shit
Blind Dude = 99.99% Hell of a Pro SC Dude

  Jun 09, 2007
08:11 PM EST

SgtHK
26
"Bxer = Dog Shit
Reason: No respect for blind dudes."


Ah c'mon. How could you say that? Ahzz already said he didn't break any rules. The rules stated that Boxer must be blindfolded for at least 3 mins, then he can take the blindfold off.

  Jun 09, 2007
08:58 PM EST

gallantry609
27
at least he could have let the blind guy win, or he could have left the blindfold on a little bit longer!... Poor Dude not knowing he lost...

He doesn't care for others sake! HE ONLY CARES ABOUT HIS WINNING PRIORITY!!!

YEAH THATS RIGHT!!! IF HE READS DIS, MEH NO CARRE!!!!!
LET HIM COME HERE AND HE'LL HAVE THE BEATING OF HIS LIFE!!!

*Pants Heavily from all the Shouting*
*Gasps for breathe*

P.S.

I always thought that boxer was great... now I see the truth..

*Sweats heavily*

P.S.S.

Did I mention that the 3rd Version of SC.org is coming..

Those who wanna Join please PM me! Only 13 Chars remaining of 15

  Jun 09, 2007
10:48 PM EST

gallantry609
28
P.S.S.

Oh! While PMing me, please Tell me what superpowers you want to have (Except cloak)

  Jun 09, 2007
11:36 PM EST

Ahzz (Section Moderator)
29
well. boxer didn't break the rules, and I'd feel bad kinda if I lost because he wasn't trying. he did his best, and won. That's it. Boxer probably went and congratulated him afterwards... and probably many did.

  Jun 10, 2007
12:25 AM EST

gallantry609
30
GAHH!!! I cant access Warboards!!!!

Stupid Script:

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"; } //--> -->

GAHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Yes, This is Spam and you know it!

  Jun 10, 2007
12:33 AM EST

SgtHK
31
Do you remember the look on Boxer's face when the game was over? I mean, just from his eyes I could tell that he was pretty shocked and awed that the blind guy played that well.

Oh and BTW, Ahzz, did you also get to find out what the blind guy's name was?

  Jun 10, 2007
01:11 AM EST

AzVortez
32
The blind guy hardly memorized the map. If you watched properly, he saved his locations on his map. So when he wanted to go to a specific location, he could press his loc button and the minimap would automatically jump to where he saved the location. I guess the locations he saved were his base and choke, boxers base and choke, plus all the expos.

Still though, the units micro alone is stunning.
=( imagine if he wasnt blind, lol.

  Jun 10, 2007
02:10 AM EST

Ahzz (Section Moderator)
33
"Oh and BTW, Ahzz, did you also get to find out what the blind guy's name was?"

Lee Min Seok

  Jun 10, 2007
02:45 AM EST

gallantry609
34
Lee Min Seok RRRROOCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!

  Jun 10, 2007
11:45 AM EST

bajadulce
35
I don't think Lee Min Seok would have even wanted Boxer to go the whole game blindfolded. Lee Min Seok got to play against a blindfolded Boxer [b]AND[/b] the [b]REAL[/b] thing! How many of us have had the chance to play either?

Awesome! You rock Lee Min Seok!

  Jun 10, 2007
12:38 PM EST

SgtHK
36
Ah, finally. We start to call him by his REAL name (Lee Min Seok), not just "the blind guy".

  Jun 10, 2007
06:24 PM EST

Hyperion
37
Lee Min Seok! The guy who nearly beat Boxer! Lets all give him a round of applause!
*Claps Hands*

  Jun 10, 2007
07:34 PM EST

Geckat
38
Pretty incredible. It always amazes me when I see blind people coping with the world without being able to see - even as much as crossing the street. When you see a blind person playing a game of StarCraft better than I can, it blows my mind. I guess in Korea, the country that probably had a simultaneous instance of weak bladder control when it saw the SC2 trailer, anything is possible if it involves StarCraft.

  Jun 12, 2007
07:02 AM EST

Homeless
39
First of all, I don't like boxer that much. I am a NaDa fan, but when I saw you guys trash him, I had to say something. First of all, the blindfold wasn't put on him to make the game fair, it was put to show how even the most experienced players would have difficulties to play without sight. Second, the blindfold made the game unfair, FOR BOXER, since the blind guy had LOTS of practice to play without seeing, and boxer had none up to the day. Third I don't think that Lee would have enjoyed a victory over boxer when he didn't even build a depot! It would have been lame. Fourth Boxer has a reputation to keep, people wouldn't think: Boxer is a nice man, he let a blind kid win. They would think: OMGZ0R BOXER GOT PWZ0RRRND BY A BLIND GUY!!1 LMAO.
Yes Boxer only won because the kid was blind and didn't see his tricks, but the kid only got that far because of the 3 minute headstart he got.

  Jun 16, 2007
01:56 AM EST

anubisfike
40
I can only add that Lee prob hotkeyed a mineral patch and so select worker and etc... then he always know where mineralpatch is (or he add location right above mineral patch so he only need to have mouse in middle of screen)

  Jun 19, 2007
10:19 AM EST

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